In 1984 Fred Barnes and BaBa Walters were better people back then.
Reagan, a conservative!
Reagan, a conservative!
Friday, October 31, 2008
You Selfish Bast_ _ _ 's
"Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’
October 31, 2008 10:58 AM
On the stump this week, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has pushed back against Sen. John McCain's description of his tax policies. " Political Punch
"The reason that we want to do this, change our tax code, is not because I have anything against the rich," Obama said in Sarasota, Fla., yesterday. "I love rich people! I want all of you to be rich. Go for it. That’s the American dream, that’s the American way, that’s terrific.
Which would fit with this description of those who want to keep their hard-earned tax dollars as "selfish."
All you rich over $40,000.00 are making too much money, 40. 100. 150. 200 ,250, who's keeping track! Your all making too much
Movie Night
The wife decided to buy the movie The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Guess I need another drink for this.
Happy Halloween.
Guess I need another drink for this.
Happy Halloween.
To Those Who Took My Signs
I guess it's time to comment.
To the children that took my McCain Palin / Gard signs.
You may think your cute but I will address you on
Wednesday morning.
November 5th, 2008.
To the children that took my McCain Palin / Gard signs.
You may think your cute but I will address you on
Wednesday morning.
November 5th, 2008.
Drilling Off Cuban Coast
From The Pine River World News
Drilling off of Cuba?
I thought Steve Kagen and the left said it was all a lie,
Huh!
Drilling off of Cuba?
Brazil' Petrobras agrees to explore for oil offshore Cuba
Merco Press, 30-OCT-2008
[Excerpt:] - Brazil is scheduled to sign on Friday an agreement with Cuba for deep-water oil and gas exploration and production. The event is considered the highlight of the two day visit of President Lula da Silva to the island beginning late Thursday." Pine River World News
I thought Steve Kagen and the left said it was all a lie,
Huh!
NASCAR PALIN
Why didn't McCain or Barracuda go to the start of a NASCAR race this year?
Big mistake or next week we should see Barracuda will be there.
Big mistake or next week we should see Barracuda will be there.
Thursday, October 30, 2008
Joe Biden Moment, Look Out
Does this mean if we elect a soft president and Vice President Al Qaeda will try something?
From Reuters
Sure looks like it to me.
Another 911?
Can the people of the United States take that chance?
We shall see Wednesday!
From Reuters
Qaeda wants Republicans, Bush "humiliated": Web video
Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:15pm EDT
DUBAI (Reuters) - An al Qaeda leader has called for President George W. Bush and the Republicans to be "humiliated," without endorsing a party in the upcoming U.S. presidential election, according to an Internet video posting.
"O God, humiliate Bush and his party, O Lord of the Worlds, degrade and defy him," Abu Yahya al-Libi said at the end of sermon marking the Muslim feast of Eid al-Fitr, in a video posted on the Internet." Qaeda wants Republicans, Bush humiliated: Web video | Reuters
Sure looks like it to me.
Another 911?
Can the people of the United States take that chance?
We shall see Wednesday!
Cross Post From Kagen Watch, "Together We Will" Tax Casino's
Kagen, "Together We Will" Tax Casino's
Did you hear the latest from Steve Kagen?
On public radio a caller asked Steve Kagen if he would support taxing the Indian casino profits?
A link to play the audio is at the end. Take a listen. I transcribed to type the best I could. It's pretty revealing.
First, seems Mr Kagen says we cannot tax other countries like Canada. Then why did he sponsor a bill to sue OPEC and other oil countries? Here from Boston.com
Deceiving the people of the 8th. Which way is it Mr. Kagen? You said you can't, but you did! Make up your mind already!
Then he says he's not a law breaker? Wow!
I am not against the Native American running casinos . I am not for taxing them. I will be honest that the percent paid to the state should be looked at but to tax the casino's is CRAZY! My position is they are smart businesses. Why else would they offer games of chance to let other people drop their money at their casinos. If people like me sometimes go and contribute, good for them. This article started because of Mr Kagen's comment that you can't sue countries but then he tries to sue oil countries. He's a hypocrite. You can't have it both ways. You can't lie to your constituents.
Then at the end of this audio comes something you have to think about.
Or should the Native Americans running the casinos think about this?
Does Steve Kagen know something that we don't? If Barack Obama is elected, that he will try to tax the Indian Casino's for more cash? He wants to tax anyone over $250, 000?
He said "I'd be happy to look at that ah idea." What , look at it means it's on the table, WOW!!!!!
Listen very carefully, he said "this is an issue that the president will have to negotiate between the elected leaders of the sovereign nation, " He used the word WILL, he didn't say WOULD or could or might or maybe, he said WILL!
What does Steve Kagen know that the tribes don't?
Native Americans , can you really trust Steve Kagen's word? Are you being deceived out of some of your profits ? The people from the casino's and the people that they support can only answer that question.
He lied before, he will lie again!
Maybe someone needs to ask Steve Kagen some hard hitting questions.
Link to the public radio audio.
Did you hear the latest from Steve Kagen?
On public radio a caller asked Steve Kagen if he would support taxing the Indian casino profits?
A link to play the audio is at the end. Take a listen. I transcribed to type the best I could. It's pretty revealing.
Kagen responded,
I do know the Native Americans enjoy a government to government relationship that's established in our constitution. I think it is very important to honor each and every element in our constitution. so I'd be happy to look at that ah idea. I don't know how we would tax Japan or tax Canada or tax another nation for their activities and it really is a government to government relationship.
Host then talks about issue being a grey area.
Kagen comes back.
it's not grey at all, It's outlined in the constitution that the tribes are Native Americans and are sovereign nations with in the United States of America and that is the constitution and until unless the constitution is (I think he said, not sure) ratified I took an oath to uphold the constitution.
Host said they are defended by the U S and join the military.
Kagen. and they do in higher numbers and percentages then we do, so it's their very loyal to the country and very loyal to their own nations and I will defend each and every constitutional element that's perhaps why the NRA has endorsed me I support the 2nd amendment as well , I am a strong supporter of the constitution,
Caller breaks in so you wouldn't support legislation to tax their profits.
Kagen again, well I think you have to ask the question a bit differently, ah would you say it's possible for us to tax Canada for their what ever activities they got? It's a government to government relationship and ah that would have to be a discussion held between our two governments.
Host, if that kind of tax were be passed would it survive a court test?
Kagen, I'm not an attorney, I'm just a law maker not a law breaker. I would say ah that this is an issue that the president will have to negotiate between the elected leaders of the sovereign nation, it isn't something that the legislature and the state house or the congress can do unilaterally.
First, seems Mr Kagen says we cannot tax other countries like Canada. Then why did he sponsor a bill to sue OPEC and other oil countries? Here from Boston.com
"U.S. House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices" U.S. House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices - Boston.com
Deceiving the people of the 8th. Which way is it Mr. Kagen? You said you can't, but you did! Make up your mind already!
Then he says he's not a law breaker? Wow!
I am not against the Native American running casinos . I am not for taxing them. I will be honest that the percent paid to the state should be looked at but to tax the casino's is CRAZY! My position is they are smart businesses. Why else would they offer games of chance to let other people drop their money at their casinos. If people like me sometimes go and contribute, good for them. This article started because of Mr Kagen's comment that you can't sue countries but then he tries to sue oil countries. He's a hypocrite. You can't have it both ways. You can't lie to your constituents.
Then at the end of this audio comes something you have to think about.
Or should the Native Americans running the casinos think about this?
Does Steve Kagen know something that we don't? If Barack Obama is elected, that he will try to tax the Indian Casino's for more cash? He wants to tax anyone over $250, 000?
He said "I'd be happy to look at that ah idea." What , look at it means it's on the table, WOW!!!!!
Listen very carefully, he said "this is an issue that the president will have to negotiate between the elected leaders of the sovereign nation, " He used the word WILL, he didn't say WOULD or could or might or maybe, he said WILL!
What does Steve Kagen know that the tribes don't?
Native Americans , can you really trust Steve Kagen's word? Are you being deceived out of some of your profits ? The people from the casino's and the people that they support can only answer that question.
He lied before, he will lie again!
Maybe someone needs to ask Steve Kagen some hard hitting questions.
Link to the public radio audio.
A Cross Post From Kagen Watch. Tea Together, Lied Again
Kagen, Tea Together, Lied Again
On public radio Steve Kagen talked about a tea party between his wife and Laura Bush..
Sorry, no it wasn't a tea party about taxation without representation like in 1773. Let us start at the beginning.
Back in Dec of 2006 Congressman-elect Steve Kagen told a story of his first visit to the White House.
During his stay while in line to see the President and his wife Laura he comments,
Listen to the following, it is a link to Steve Kagen on public radio.
This from Badger Blogger
So now Steve Kagen lied on public radio to a caller, maybe a constituent that people like him sometimes get confused and call someone's spouse a wrong first name! Confused that he told a left wing group it was a big joke in 2006! Confused his wife now has tea parties all the time with Laura Bush.!
Two years ago Steve Kagen made up stories at the white house, said it didn't happen, said the press misunderstood, said he was joking and then tries to tell a caller, claiming that “confusing Laura and Barbara Bush is a mistake that happens all the time.”
Sorry caller, now he made up two stories about Laura Bush.
How can we believe Steve Kagen when he says he cares for the people of the 8th district?
How can you believe Steve Kagen when he says he's cutting spending?
How can you believe Steve Kagen when in 2007 he says he wants to stop earmarks and then adds earmarks to bills in congress after that?
Steve Kagen cannot be believed! He is deceiving the people of the 8th district
just to get re elected.
We need to send Steve Kagen back to private practice!
This link is even better from a pod cast from Charlie Sykes at 620 WTMJ
For a laugh, listen to Charlie and "Yeah, That's The Ticket!"
On public radio Steve Kagen talked about a tea party between his wife and Laura Bush..
Sorry, no it wasn't a tea party about taxation without representation like in 1773. Let us start at the beginning.
Back in Dec of 2006 Congressman-elect Steve Kagen told a story of his first visit to the White House.
During his stay while in line to see the President and his wife Laura he comments,
He said Bush gave one of his smiles and said, ‘I’ve lost a lot of money in my life, too.’ Then I go to his wife, ‘Hi Barbara, how are ya?’ I did that because I learned on the campaign that the meanest thing you can say to another gentlemen is, ‘he’s a fine fellow,’ and you then refer to his spouse by a different name.”
Listen to the following, it is a link to Steve Kagen on public radio.
This from Badger Blogger
"In the audio, a caller queries Kagen as to why he would have “embarrassed” the residents of his district by intentionally calling Laura Bush “Barbara”, which Kagen boasted about shortly after his Congressional freshman orientation in a chest-pumping attempt to impress a room full of peace activists."
Yet Kagen told the caller to the Green Bay radio program (presumably, one of his constituents) that she essentially had her facts wrong, claiming that “confusing Laura and Barbara Bush is a mistake that happens all the time.”
Even the Journal/Sentinel, in a recent feature on Kagen, acknowledged Kagen’s gaffe, and his subsequent admission that the story was nothing but a fabrication.
Thus, Congressman Kagen’s answer to the call-in questioner was at best a lie, and, at worst, delusional. Which is nothing new for Kagen. Badger Blogger
So now Steve Kagen lied on public radio to a caller, maybe a constituent that people like him sometimes get confused and call someone's spouse a wrong first name! Confused that he told a left wing group it was a big joke in 2006! Confused his wife now has tea parties all the time with Laura Bush.!
Two years ago Steve Kagen made up stories at the white house, said it didn't happen, said the press misunderstood, said he was joking and then tries to tell a caller, claiming that “confusing Laura and Barbara Bush is a mistake that happens all the time.”
Sorry caller, now he made up two stories about Laura Bush.
How can we believe Steve Kagen when he says he cares for the people of the 8th district?
How can you believe Steve Kagen when he says he's cutting spending?
How can you believe Steve Kagen when in 2007 he says he wants to stop earmarks and then adds earmarks to bills in congress after that?
Steve Kagen cannot be believed! He is deceiving the people of the 8th district
just to get re elected.
We need to send Steve Kagen back to private practice!
This link is even better from a pod cast from Charlie Sykes at 620 WTMJ
For a laugh, listen to Charlie and "Yeah, That's The Ticket!"
Street Fights Shawano
From Shawano Leader Onloine
"Street fight in Shawano linked to alleged gang members
By Tim Ryan, Leader Reporter
Several alleged gang members have been linked to a street fight in Shawano Tuesday that briefly caused a lockdown of three neighborhood schools.
Police have been dealing with a chronic vandalism problem in the city, much of it in the form of gang graffiti, but Tuesday’s incident was the first time police have tied alleged gang members to any violent activity.
Police responded about 2 p.m. Tuesday to a report of a fight on Andrews Street involving more than a dozen subjects armed with baseball bats. Three vehicles fled the scene when police arrived.
Duran Teller, 21, of Shawano, was arrested after the vehicle he was in stopped and three other subjects fled on foot.
Teller was charged in Shawano County Circuit Court Wednesday with felony bail jumping, two counts of misdemeanor bail jumping and a misdemeanor count of disorderly conduct with a dangerous weapon. An amended complaint was expected Thursday with an additional count of resisting an officer, according to the district attorney’s office.
According to the police report, several of the subjects involved in the fight were identified as Latin King gang members." Shawano Leader
Shawano Police Capt. Jeff Heffernon said police are counting on public support in combating what appears to be a growing problem of gang activity.
“We’d like to shine the light of day on this budding problem in Shawano,” Heffernon said.
“What we really appreciate are the people who call the police for these types of activities,” he said. “We need those eyes. We need the cooperation of the people of the city of Shawano to contact us when they see suspicious activities so we can come and take appropriate law enforcement action. Without that, we’re not going to be able to effectively meet this problem.”
Heffernon said measures taken by police and the city — including a recently adopted ordinance setting strict penalties for graffiti vandalism — shows the department is taking the issue seriously.
“Believe me, we want to meet it head on and not allow any gang affiliated people to be comfortable in the city of Shawano,” he said.
Previous suspected gang activity has been limited to vandalism — the worst of which was a vehicle set on fire. Tuesday’s fight was the first time police identified alleged gang members with an act of violence.
“I don’t want to say it’s an escalation but it’s certainly...you can draw that conclusion,” Heffernon said.
According to statements taken by police, a birthday party was going on in a home in the 200 block of South Andrews Street when two vehicles showed up outside.
About nine people got out of the vehicles carrying baseball bats and bricks, the police report said. Seven subjects from inside the house were outside when police arrived.
Two other people in a third vehicle that left the scene were also questioned by police and said the confrontation was already going on when they arrived.
Though bats were swung and a brick was apparently thrown during the melee, no one was apparently injured, according to police reports.
Heffernon said the incident was still being investigated Wednesday and it was still unclear what the fight was about. He said there had apparently been two attempts to “carry out this fight,” both in the same location within 14 hours of one another.
Some of the same individuals in Tuesday afternoon’s incident were believed to be involved in another police call in the same area early Tuesday morning, Heffernon said.
Police responded to a report of a fight in progress in the 200 block of South Andrews Street at 12:30 a.m. Tuesday. Several subjects were at the scene when police arrived, but denied there was a fight.
Schools in the area were advised to lock down their facilities for about an hour Tuesday afternoon because of an initial report of a firearm in one of the vehicles. No firearm was located in the vehicle left behind at the scene.
Heffernon said the lockdown was just a precaution until the scene was secured.
“Preliminary information was that a firearm was involved,” Heffernon said. “We weren’t able to confirm that, but given the potential of violence the schools were notified.”
Wednesday, October 29, 2008
Pollster Watch
From a comment from an Althouse: post
Interesting. but if riots break out, all this will be forgotten.
"It would be pretty weird for McCain to win. I don't know if it would necessarily mean a Bradley effect so large we'd have to call it an Obama effect, as Nicholas alludes to, but for the polls to be this consistent for this many weeks (roughly a 7-point lead since late September), there would have to be a massive suicide watch on nearly every pollster in the country. None of these guys could be trusted to even count their toes ever again." Althouse: If Obama is so far ahead...
Interesting. but if riots break out, all this will be forgotten.
Gillett To State
"Peshtigo Boys Lead Area Contingent To State Meet
The Peshtigo Bulldogs had their sights set on a state cross country trip, and they accomplished that goal with a second-place finish at the Tomahawk Sectional Saturday.
Jenny Metzler, a freshman from the Bulldog girls team, advanced as an individual, as did Haylee Lucht of Oconto Falls.
In Division 3, a pair of Gillett runners (Andrew Clark and Molly Hischke) as well as Beth Beyer of Lena/STAA qualified." Peshtigo Times Wisconsin Community Newspaper
Despite the Gillett boys missing out by 19 points, Andrew Clark will be heading to the state cross country meet to be held Saturday at The Ridges Golf Course in Wisconsin Rapids.
He will have some company.
His teammate, Molly Hischke, qualified in the girls race, while Lena/STAA’s Beth Beyer also will be heading to the state race.
Way to go Andrew and Molly!
Go Gillett!
Barack Throws Another Family Member Under The Bus
"October 30, 2008
Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango" Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango - Times Online
ames Bone in Boston, Rob Crilly in Kogelo and Ben Macintyre
Barack Obama has lived one version of the American Dream that has taken him to the steps of the White House. But a few miles from where the Democratic presidential candidate studied at Harvard, his Kenyan aunt and uncle, immigrants living in modest circumstances in Boston, have a contrasting American story.
Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Mr Obama’s best-selling memoir Dreams from My Father, lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston.
Poor Aunt living in Boston.
Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Ms Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the “Auntie Zeituni” in Mr Obama’s memoir. She declined to answer most other questions about her relationship with the presidential contender until after the November 4 election. “I can’t talk about it, I just pray for him, that’s all,” she said, adding: “After the 4th, I can talk to anyone.”
Why can't she talk now?
Who told her not to talk?
What will she say after Nov. 4th?
With all the money Barack has, why didn't he help his family?
Green Bay Packers Liberal Left ?
From Manufacture this.
Holy CRAP, on the sacred grounds of Lambeau Field, a national lobbyist group .
I should of known by the “Keep It Made in America”
Ok, I think I heard of Sly, then I see United Steelworkers, then Sierra Club and then Wisconsin Fair Trade Coalition. Holy crap, What the heck are the Green Bay Packers doing here letting a lefty pep rally being held at Lambeau Field?
I fell out of my chair when I see Steve Kagen "laid out his vision for trade and manufacturing next year." What plan, oh "spread the wealth", that's right. Nice they had to mention John Gard did not attend.
Sorry, lost my respect for two Green Bay Packers.
I don't understand how a Bear fan got in and how the Green Bay Packers would of let this take place at Lambeau Field.
A union, anti business liberal left pep rally.
To the Packers G M. Are you really that hard up for cash?
Hope this wasn't for free or was it a donation by the Green Bay Packers.
Where is the MSM on who paid for the use of building and who paid for Hawk and Mason? You notice the two links from the GBP and Fox 11 are vague on their information.
Sorry, silly me, maybe the Packers are for Barack and the democrats. If they are, just say so. If not, they should of kept this liberal event out of the holy ground of Vince and all our hero's.
Someone going to say anything about this? Will anyone look into this? Highly doubtful.
Where is Bob Harlin?
Update- I would have no problem with this if it was a bi partisan event. But it was not.
Holy CRAP, on the sacred grounds of Lambeau Field, a national lobbyist group .
"From the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field
Posted by SPaul on October 29th, 2008 " Manufacture This » Blog Archive » From the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field
ManufactureThis wrapped up a busy month on the road last night at beautiful Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Our “Keep It Made in America” Town Hall meeting had so many highlights that it’s hard to know where to start.
I should of known by the “Keep It Made in America”
Well-known Wisconsin radio talk show host Sly moderated a panel discussion that included insightful remarks from Jon Geenen of the United Steelworkers, Rod Bolhous of Milwaukee-based Bucyrus International, Inc., Margrete Strand of the Sierra Club, and Sachin Chheda of the Wisconsin Fair Trade Coalition. Among the topics: the plight of the paper industry in Wisconsin, how an American manufacturer is able to keep more than 2500 jobs in Wisconsin, the work of the Blue-Green Alliance to grow new “clean energy” jobs, what we need to do about China’s unfair trade practices, and what a new trade policy would look like.
Ok, I think I heard of Sly, then I see United Steelworkers, then Sierra Club and then Wisconsin Fair Trade Coalition. Holy crap, What the heck are the Green Bay Packers doing here letting a lefty pep rally being held at Lambeau Field?
Rep. Steve Kagen (WI-08) laid out his vision for trade and manufacturing next year. His opponent, John Gard, was invited, but did not attend.
I fell out of my chair when I see Steve Kagen "laid out his vision for trade and manufacturing next year." What plan, oh "spread the wealth", that's right. Nice they had to mention John Gard did not attend.
A.J. Hawk and Mason Crosby of the Green Bay Packers gave their support for keeping good jobs in the community, telling the nearly 500 gathered in the atrium at Lambeau Field that a strong manufacturing base is important to the football team and the community.
Sorry, lost my respect for two Green Bay Packers.
And we received a terrific welcome from Green Bay Mayor Jim Schmitt, State Rep. Tom Nelson, and Steelworkers District Director Mike Bolton. In a region that has seen dozens of plant closures and layoffs from unfair trade practices from China, the meeting helped to galvanize public support for a plan to grow manufacturing in Wisconsin and throughout America. We hope Washington will get the message.So what did Jim Schmidt say about all the down sizing that Fort Howard / James River has gone through lately and what will he do about lost jobs.
You can see and read a bit of the media coverage of the event here and here.
Even this long-time Chicago Bears fan was honored to be at Lambeau, together with the community of Green Bay, A.J. Hawk and Mason Crosby.
I don't understand how a Bear fan got in and how the Green Bay Packers would of let this take place at Lambeau Field.
A union, anti business liberal left pep rally.
To the Packers G M. Are you really that hard up for cash?
Hope this wasn't for free or was it a donation by the Green Bay Packers.
Where is the MSM on who paid for the use of building and who paid for Hawk and Mason? You notice the two links from the GBP and Fox 11 are vague on their information.
Sorry, silly me, maybe the Packers are for Barack and the democrats. If they are, just say so. If not, they should of kept this liberal event out of the holy ground of Vince and all our hero's.
Someone going to say anything about this? Will anyone look into this? Highly doubtful.
Where is Bob Harlin?
Update- I would have no problem with this if it was a bi partisan event. But it was not.
Hispanic Vote
"Published: Oct 28, 2008
'Locos' About Obama?
by Miguel Perez"
'Locos' About Obama? - Commentary: The Post Chronicle
He never has traveled to Latin America. He opposes free trade with Colombia, turning his back on one of the only U.S. allies in the region. He wants to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada. He insists on meeting "without preconditions" with tyrants such as Cuba's Fidel and Raul Castro and anti-American zealots such as Venezuela's Hugo Chavez. He has cowardly run away from the immigration issue during his campaign against Sen. John McCain.
Miguel also talks about the Hispanics not voting for John McCain either. But from the last line of the article it is interesting.
On Election Day, don't expect a huge voter turnout among Latinos. Many will remain as invisible as the candidates treated them.
Urban Sprawl, Oconto County
From the Shawano Leader Online.
Will the County board spread the wealth to the poorer areas of the County? Tax relief for some townships? Oh, that's right, Barack will spread the wealth for them. Stupid me!
On a serious note, there are some townships that are struggling to keep their taxes low. Interesting problem.
"Oconto Co. leads in population growth
By Kent Tempus, Leader Editor
Oconto County is among the fastest growing areas of the state this decade, according to figures released by the state of Wisconsin.
Other areas of the Wolf River Region aren’t quite keeping up with average growth statewide, with many rural townships and villages —especially in western Shawano County and northern Waupaca County — showing slow growth or even declining in population.
But Oconto County’s population is up 10.1 percent from the 2001 Census to 2008, according the state Department of Administration.
“It’s unbelievable what’s happened in the last few years,” said Lee Rymer of Oconto Falls, the chairman of the Oconto County Board.
“We’re happy to see it grow, and we’re pleased with that 10 percent figure, that’s for sure,” he added. “We’ll probably hit 40,000 in the next few years.”
The two most southern townships in Oconto County — Chase and Little Suamico — are showing far and away the highest increases in population.
“It’s mainly people moving from the Green Bay area up to us,” said Kevin Hamann, the county’s administrative coordinator. “There’s new homes and subdivisions popping up all the time.”
The next tier of townships in Oconto County — Morgan, Abrams and Pensaukee — also posted large gains in population. The growth can be seen weekdays in the early morning, as motorists jam Highway 41 and other roadways on the way into Green Bay to go to work, Hamann said.
“They know Oconto County is a very nice place to live, everyone knows that, so they all want to live here,” Hamann said.
Oconto County has been gaining population from people moving from Green Bay for the past 10 to 15 years, he added. Rymer said the influx is slowly moving north from Green Bay.
“Years ago, it was Suamico, then Sobieski, and now it’s Abrams and Morgan,” Rymer said.
Rymer said better real estate values and better home values contribute to attracting people from the Green Bay area. For many people, it’s an easy commute.
“It’s a half hour back home and to work,” Rymer said. He added the housing slowdown hasn’t hit the county as hard as other areas.
Hamann also noted that townships in the northern side of Oconto County — Townsend, Riverview, Doty and Breed — are also posting gains in population. That’s a reflection of more people retiring to those areas, he said.
Towns and villages in Oconto County experienced declines in population or low growth, mirroring what’s happening in much of Shawano and Waupaca counties.
Much of Shawano County’s gain of 4.8 percent occurred in a handful of locations —the towns of Angelica, Bartelme, Hartland, Lessor, Richmond and Waukechon, as well as the city of Shawano and the village of Cecil.
The city of Shawano was up 5.5 percent, while Cecil increased nearly 23 percent to 572.
Shawano city administrator Jim Stadler attributed the gains in the city and Cecil to development of new multi-family housing.
Next year’s estimate for Shawano will likely have the city going over the 9,000 mark for the first time.
“We’ll have a substantial increase,” Stadler said. “With the Wescott Sanitary District 1 we annexed, those individuals will be in our estimate next time.”
That area — north of the channel and west of Highway 47, was annexed by the city this past summer. The area has about 270 residents.
In Waupaca County, the increase between 2000 and 2008 was 4.5 percent.
Declines in populations in villages and cities in northern Waupaca County were more than offset by gains in the townships in the south, including Fremont, Lind, Iola and Mukwa.
“I really see the Chain of Lakes (just southwest of Waupaca) being a draw,” said Dick Koeppen of Clintonville, the chairman of the Waupaca County Board. “Many people are moving here from the larger cities to build a home around the Chain.”
Koeppen said the city of Waupaca is a big draw for the county. Its population is up 6.2 percent.
“There’s a smorgasbord of businesses, and I think people live in (the nearby townships) because of the Chain of Lakes.”
Statewide, Wisconsin has added 311,441, or 5.8 percent more residents since the 2000 U.S. Census.
The Department of Administration produces population estimates each year as required by state statute. The estimates are used by state and local officials for a variety of purposes including the distribution of state funds, district attorney allocation, and calculation of voter turnout.
State demographers use vehicle registrations, tax filings, school enrollment, changes in housing units, institutional enrollment, and records of births and deaths to make their estimates. The report shows that the state's population was 5,675,156 as of Jan. 1, 2008.
Wisconsin’s growth rate remains strong compared to other Midwestern states, ranking second behind Minnesota in the region and fourth out of all 12 Midwestern states, the DOA said. Unlike other states whose population growth has centered on large metropolitan areas or one particular part of the state, Wisconsin’s growth has extended to communities of all sizes, Gov. Jim Doyle noted." Shawano Leader
Will the County board spread the wealth to the poorer areas of the County? Tax relief for some townships? Oh, that's right, Barack will spread the wealth for them. Stupid me!
On a serious note, there are some townships that are struggling to keep their taxes low. Interesting problem.
End Of The World
From the Appleton Post Crescent.
My God, are you prepared for the end of the world?
Stay in your house or apartment. o not open any door! Do not try to leave with out permission of the Obama government. Do not open any windows, do not speak on any phone, do not open your refrigerator door! All have contaminants and can kill you some day!
What next?
My God, are you prepared for the end of the world?
"Doorknobs and TV remotes are germ hotbeds
Scientists test surfaces, looking for source of colds" Doorknobs and TV remotes are germ hotbeds | Postcrescent.com | Appleton Post-Crescent
By Marilynn Marchione • Associated Press medical writer • October 29, 2008
WASHINGTON — Someone in your house have the sniffles? Watch out for the refrigerator door handle. The TV remote, too.
A new study finds that cold sufferers often leave their germs there, where they can live for two days or longer.
Scientists at the University of Virginia, long known for its virology research, tested surfaces in the homes of people with colds and reported the results Tuesday at the nation's premier conference on infectious diseases.
Doctors don't know how often people catch colds from touching germy surfaces as opposed to, say, shaking a sick person's hand, said Dr. Birgit Winther, an ear, nose and throat specialist who helped conduct the study.
Two years ago, she and other doctors showed that germs survived in hotel rooms a day after guests left, waiting to be picked up by the next person checking in.
For the new study, researchers started with 30 adults showing early symptoms of colds. Sixteen tested positive for rhinovirus, which causes about half of all colds. They were asked to name 10 places in their homes they had touched in the preceding 18 hours, and researchers used DNA tests to hunt for rhinovirus.
"We found that commonly touched areas like refrigerator doors and handles were positive about 40 percent of the time" for cold germs, Winther said.
All three of the salt and pepper shakers they tested were contaminated. Other spots found to harbor the germ: 6 out of 18 doorknobs; 8 of 14 refrigerator handles; 3 of 13 light switches; 6 of 10 remote controls; 8 of 10 bathroom faucets; 4 of 7 phones, and 3 of 4 dishwasher handles.
In a separate study, the university's Drs. Diane Pappas and Owen Hendley went germ-hunting on toys in the offices of five pediatricians in Fairfax, Va.
Tests showed fragments of cold viruses on 20 percent of all toys tested.
"Mamas know this," Hendley said. "They say, 'We go to a doctor for a well-child checkup, the kids play with the toys and two days later they have a cold.'"
"There is no proof that the remnants themselves can infect, but their presence suggests a risk, said Dr. Paul Auwaerter, an infectious-diseases specialist at Johns Hopkins University.
Stay in your house or apartment. o not open any door! Do not try to leave with out permission of the Obama government. Do not open any windows, do not speak on any phone, do not open your refrigerator door! All have contaminants and can kill you some day!
What next?
Dumb Quote Of The Day
From the San Francisco News
From Nancy Pelosi from the 8th district of California. not that they are often mixed up with the 8th district of Wisconsin. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
""Elect us, hold us accountable, and make a judgment and then go from there. But I do tell you that if the Democrats win, and have substantial majorities, Congress of the United States will be more bipartisan," said Pelosi. " Pelosi debunks triple threat rumor - 10/28/08 - San Francisco News - abc7news.com
From Nancy Pelosi from the 8th district of California. not that they are often mixed up with the 8th district of Wisconsin. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
A Guy That Just Believes
If I were a politician which I am not, I would say some things that really matter to me and to the people of this country. No I am not a writer either. During this election, people have heard, read and seen every ad, every editorial, every slant and every lie. I thought it was time I would tell my family and the few that read my writing what I believe.
I'm sure all will remember Jeff Foxworthy and the guys from Blue collar T V. The simple phrase
"I believe".
Don't you sometimes wish you could hear something good from our politicians? An honest speech on what they believe in. No fancy music, no fancy script, just words that have meaning and what is important to the people of this GREAT country. No promises they cannot keep. No help from special interests, no expert, no adviser no MSM or someone who thinks they know better when they really don't.
To my wife and my three children, I believe in you.
To them and all the people of this great country.
I believe in the all the people who built this country and the people that died to protect it.
I believe in the hard working people who make this country grow, because of you, that is why this country is so great.
I believe in the good people of this country that are not selfish, not greedy, not those that thirst for power.
I believe in a leader, not a politician. Ronald Reagan was a leader.
I believe in the business owners of this country. It is you that powers the economy to produce goods and employ the people of this country.
I believe in the people that stand for justice for every great American. The justice that protects us by the words our fore fathers wrote in The Constitution of the United States of America.
I believe it is you and not government that makes this country great.
I believe in the unborn. For if we don't protect all life, we will end our own civilization.
I believe in people that believe in God. whether Catholic, Protestant , Jew or Muslim, it makes no difference but that you believe.
I believe in people who put others before themselves.
I believe in people that give with their hearts when some cannot do for themselves.
I believe government is not the solution, government is the problem, (Ronald Reagan).
I believe in those that lend a helping hand when some are in need. Does not matter if it is a hurricane a flood or someone down on their luck, I believe in the people that are there for you.
I believe in the steel worker, the baker, the computer programmer, the red cross volunteer, the nurse, the person who helps at the local senior center, no matter what you do, you are valuable and important to every single person in this country. It is through hard work that makes you successful.
I believe that if you dream of your future , it will only come through hard work and not an endless handout.
I believe in the people that protect us. From police to fire and the armed forces. I believe in all men and women that stand in harms way to keep us safe.
I believe in Mom and Dad who bring children up everyday. For our children are our future.
I believe if people have to choose, they will choose good over bad, right over wrong.
I believe in family values and all that God has asked of us.
I believe in the five most important things in life. And they are always in this order.
No deviation. 1) Your God, 2) your spouse, 3) your family, 4) your work and 5) everything else.
I believe in people like you, not the color of your skin, not the religion you believe, not the language you speak or the amount of money you may have. If you believe in God , believe in hard work an believe in yourself, good things will come to you.
I believe in all children for they are our future leaders. Teach them well and smart, teach them to work hard and they will expand the great history of this great country.
I believe that character is doing something good when no one is watching.
I believe you have good character and I believe in you.
I am a conservative.
Paul J Socha
I'm sure all will remember Jeff Foxworthy and the guys from Blue collar T V. The simple phrase
"I believe".
Don't you sometimes wish you could hear something good from our politicians? An honest speech on what they believe in. No fancy music, no fancy script, just words that have meaning and what is important to the people of this GREAT country. No promises they cannot keep. No help from special interests, no expert, no adviser no MSM or someone who thinks they know better when they really don't.
To my wife and my three children, I believe in you.
To them and all the people of this great country.
I believe in the all the people who built this country and the people that died to protect it.
I believe in the hard working people who make this country grow, because of you, that is why this country is so great.
I believe in the good people of this country that are not selfish, not greedy, not those that thirst for power.
I believe in a leader, not a politician. Ronald Reagan was a leader.
I believe in the business owners of this country. It is you that powers the economy to produce goods and employ the people of this country.
I believe in the people that stand for justice for every great American. The justice that protects us by the words our fore fathers wrote in The Constitution of the United States of America.
I believe it is you and not government that makes this country great.
I believe in the unborn. For if we don't protect all life, we will end our own civilization.
I believe in people that believe in God. whether Catholic, Protestant , Jew or Muslim, it makes no difference but that you believe.
I believe in people who put others before themselves.
I believe in people that give with their hearts when some cannot do for themselves.
I believe government is not the solution, government is the problem, (Ronald Reagan).
I believe in those that lend a helping hand when some are in need. Does not matter if it is a hurricane a flood or someone down on their luck, I believe in the people that are there for you.
I believe in the steel worker, the baker, the computer programmer, the red cross volunteer, the nurse, the person who helps at the local senior center, no matter what you do, you are valuable and important to every single person in this country. It is through hard work that makes you successful.
I believe that if you dream of your future , it will only come through hard work and not an endless handout.
I believe in the people that protect us. From police to fire and the armed forces. I believe in all men and women that stand in harms way to keep us safe.
I believe in Mom and Dad who bring children up everyday. For our children are our future.
I believe if people have to choose, they will choose good over bad, right over wrong.
I believe in family values and all that God has asked of us.
I believe in the five most important things in life. And they are always in this order.
No deviation. 1) Your God, 2) your spouse, 3) your family, 4) your work and 5) everything else.
I believe in people like you, not the color of your skin, not the religion you believe, not the language you speak or the amount of money you may have. If you believe in God , believe in hard work an believe in yourself, good things will come to you.
I believe in all children for they are our future leaders. Teach them well and smart, teach them to work hard and they will expand the great history of this great country.
I believe that character is doing something good when no one is watching.
I believe you have good character and I believe in you.
I am a conservative.
Paul J Socha
Kagen, "Together We Will" Eliminate Earmarks
From a post I did at Kagen Watch
From Daniel Bice Column in the JSOnline.
How can you reform Washington when he said;
" He changed rules to end runaway deficit spending," it never happened, lie # 1.
How much is the deficit today? What rules did he change?
Then he never did freeze federal spending, lie # 2,
Who's money is Steve Kagen spending? It's your money!
And then starts loading earmarks into defense spending? Lie # 3, I thought he was going to end earmarks?
And now Steve Kagen and his democratic friends want to take away your 401K.
See this from Benefitsblog from 570 KVI
Look at this quote from Ghilarducci
Spreading the wealth? "Um, doesn't cost the government money?" It's our money she is talking about.
Now how can you believe Steve Kagen to say he will protect your 401 K? How can you believe he will change Washington? What was he doing for two years? Can you really, really believe him? Can you trust Steve Kagen? How many times will Steve Kagen fool you?
You see, Steve Kagen will say anything to get elected just like in 2006 then ends up deceiving the people of the 8th district.
You have to ask yourself this question, "Can you believe Steve Kagen?"
I believe in the people of the 8th district.
I believe the people of the 8th will send Steve Kagen back to private practice.
It's time for John Gard!
C/ P B / L
From Daniel Bice Column in the JSOnline.
"Anti-pork fervor soon fades in D.C.
Posted: Oct. 26, 2008
When he took office a little less than two years ago, U.S. Rep. Steve Kagen was all about reforming the way Washington operates.
"The first thing we did was change the rules to end runaway deficit spending," Kagen said in a Jan. 30, 2007, press release. "Now, we'll freeze federal spending at last year's level, and eliminate earmarks in the federal budget."
But something changed.
Now Kagen is a big fan of earmarks.
He had three in the recently passed defense-spending bill, including $800,000 for Utility Tool and Trailer in Clintonville for aluminum military trailers.
Not surprisingly, two executives with Utility Tool gave the first-term Democratic congressman $4,600 earlier this year, and the pair then chipped in a similar amount in September while the measure was pending.
But Kagen isn't alone in hauling pork home for campaign donors.
Earmarks are bipartisan business." Anti-pork fervor soon fades in D.C. - JSOnline
How can you reform Washington when he said;
" He changed rules to end runaway deficit spending," it never happened, lie # 1.
How much is the deficit today? What rules did he change?
Then he never did freeze federal spending, lie # 2,
Who's money is Steve Kagen spending? It's your money!
And then starts loading earmarks into defense spending? Lie # 3, I thought he was going to end earmarks?
And now Steve Kagen and his democratic friends want to take away your 401K.
See this from Benefitsblog from 570 KVI
"Am 570 KVI in Seattle Interviews Professor Ghilarducci and more. . .
You can access a radio interview here conducted by Kirby Wilbur with Professor Teresa Ghilarducci in which she states that the goal behind her plan to "restructure" the 401(k) is "spreading the wealth." Professor Ghilarducci has authored the plan which is currently under serious consideration by House Democrats. Excerpt from the interview: " Benefitsblog: Am 570 KVI in Seattle Interviews Professor Ghilarducci and more. . .
Look at this quote from Ghilarducci
GHILARDUCCI: And what's amazing about this is that it's actually, um, doesn't cost the government anything. I'm just rearranging the tax breaks that are available now for 401(k)s and spreading -- spreading the wealth.
Spreading the wealth? "Um, doesn't cost the government money?" It's our money she is talking about.
Now how can you believe Steve Kagen to say he will protect your 401 K? How can you believe he will change Washington? What was he doing for two years? Can you really, really believe him? Can you trust Steve Kagen? How many times will Steve Kagen fool you?
You see, Steve Kagen will say anything to get elected just like in 2006 then ends up deceiving the people of the 8th district.
You have to ask yourself this question, "Can you believe Steve Kagen?"
I believe in the people of the 8th district.
I believe the people of the 8th will send Steve Kagen back to private practice.
It's time for John Gard!
C/ P B / L
Tin Hat Time
From the Appleton Post Crescent.
Poor lady was just trying to help and gets knocked over. What if the tables were turned and this happened at a democratic office?
Was it worth 650 bucks? Why did the paper say his real name was from "police and jail records?" What does that have to do with anything. Wow!
Left his bank balance? What? Time to pull out the Reynolds wrap for the tin hats.
Who is this lady, she is a hero! Tough as nails and declined treatment!
As I said, if this was at a dem office the injured worker would of been air lifted to the hospital, wear a neck brace and would of been on every t v station in Green Bay. I could just hear it, evil republican beats up campaign worker. You would also hear that a lawsuit was also filed in the disturbance! It would be a fire storm!
I guess he could / will / did vote for Obama.
Poor lady was just trying to help and gets knocked over. What if the tables were turned and this happened at a democratic office?
"Appleton man arrested for pushing Republican campaign volunteer
By John Lee • Post-Crescent staff writer • October 28, 2008 " Appleton man arrested for pushing Republican campaign volunteer | Postcrescent.com | Appleton Post-Crescent
APPLETON — A 57-year-old Appleton man faces misdemeanor charges after going to the county Republican Party headquarters to complain about candidate calls to his home.
Benjamin Porter, listed in police and jail records as David Benjamin Porter, was arrested Monday after he allegedly pushed a 68-year-old disabled Republican volunteer.
He was released from jail after posting a $650 cash bond on charges of disorderly conduct and battery.
Was it worth 650 bucks? Why did the paper say his real name was from "police and jail records?" What does that have to do with anything. Wow!
Officials from the Republican Party of Outagamie County said the man has been calling the office for more than a week complaining about campaign calls.
Police Lt. Steve Elliott said Porter told the arresting officer he would "disrupt the Republican Party every time they disrupted him."
Porter left a note with his name, address and bank balance in the GOP headquarters on W. College Avenue after the incident.
Left his bank balance? What? Time to pull out the Reynolds wrap for the tin hats.
Porter, who said he is a restaurant worker, said the frequent calls from candidates got to him.
"The Republican Party, just as they did four years ago, continues to call my house six times a day for one candidate or another," he said. "They always promise to quit calling but they continue to call."
Susan Weiss, the GOP membership chairwoman, said a woman who walks with a cane was alone in the office when Porter arrived.
The woman put a hand on his arm to calm him.
"He screamed 'Don't touch me.' He pushed her and she fell backwards and hit the back of her head on the counter," Weiss said.
The woman declined medical treatment.
Who is this lady, she is a hero! Tough as nails and declined treatment!
As I said, if this was at a dem office the injured worker would of been air lifted to the hospital, wear a neck brace and would of been on every t v station in Green Bay. I could just hear it, evil republican beats up campaign worker. You would also hear that a lawsuit was also filed in the disturbance! It would be a fire storm!
I guess he could / will / did vote for Obama.
Monday, October 27, 2008
Ronald Reagan And Freedom
From Marketplace of Ideas Blog.
From Ronald Reagan.
The movement will go forward without the RINO's in this country.
I am not a Republican, I am and will always be a Conservative.
The movement will go forward.
From Ronald Reagan.
"If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth. And this idea that government is beholden to the people, that it has no other source of power except to sovereign people, is still the newest and most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election. Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves. …
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness. …" Marketplace of Ideas Blog
The movement will go forward without the RINO's in this country.
I am not a Republican, I am and will always be a Conservative.
The movement will go forward.
Kagen, "Together We Will", See Rats Scramble
From Uppity Wisconsin
Obviously,
the light shines on the rats and the rats cannot take the light of truth ( light of truth from Rush). The Kagen camp is running from the truth in the 8th district. Why is the Wisconsin DNC trying to shut down T V stations ? The truth about Congressman Kagen is there for everyone to see and the left is trying to hide it in the dark like a pack of rats hoarding food.
So WEAC, DNC and all the other special interest groups on behalf of Kagen against John Gard are all truthful and honest? Not! Somebody is running scared.
When you shine the light of truth on the left they are just like a bunch rats, they just go and hide!
We need to send Steve Kagen back to private practice.
Obviously,
the light shines on the rats and the rats cannot take the light of truth ( light of truth from Rush). The Kagen camp is running from the truth in the 8th district. Why is the Wisconsin DNC trying to shut down T V stations ? The truth about Congressman Kagen is there for everyone to see and the left is trying to hide it in the dark like a pack of rats hoarding food.
"State Democratic Party Demands End to Anti-Kagen Ads in Fox Valley
Posted October 27th, 2008 by Steve Hanson
Press release today from the state Democratic Party -- Another Republican ad full of half truths and full lies -
MADISON – The Democratic Party of Wisconsin today called on Green Bay-Fox Valley TV stations to immediately pull a negative political ad running by the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) that contains false, misleading, and deceptive statements about Congressman Steve Kagen’s record.
Each and every claim in the NRCC ad is false and misleading, and knowingly misstates Kagen’s voting on the issues of taxes, Medicare, and immigration. DPW attorneys have filed letters with Green Bay TV stations to serve notice of the stations' legal responsibilities and potential liabilities for airing false claims. View the NRCC ad “drowning”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nkODxZW44E.
“This shady ad is chock full of lies about Congressman Kagen’s record and needs to be taken off the air immediately,” said Joe Wineke, Chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. “The NRCC has a long history of running negative, false ads, and just last week TV stations in Alabama took down an ad from this same group. We are now asking Green Bay TV to follow suit and pull these lies from the air now.”
The ad falsely accuses Congressman Kagen of “voting for the largest tax increase in history.” The ad cites the passage of the Congressional Budget Resolution for the U.S. Government for Fiscal Year 2008. This vote does not, and cannot by its very nature, be considered a vote for a tax increase. Simply put, Congress cannot increase taxes in a budget resolution.
The NRCC also claims, falsely, that Congressman Kagen, “voted to cut Medicare and to hike taxes on private health insurance.” The NRCC fails to provide any documentation to support this claim – nor could it, as the bill it cites actually increased benefits.
Lastly, the ad falsely states that Congressman Kagen “fought to make it easier for illegal aliens to get health care.” The NRCC's claim is an outright lie. The non-partisan Congressional Quarterly states that the legislation’s final version specifically “Clarified that the bill does not allow for federal payment for individuals who are not legal residents.” A copy of this non-partisan analysis is attached with this letter.
The ad in question has been running for several days in the Green Bay-Fox Valley TV market, repeating factually incorrect statements and misrepresenting Congressman Kagen’s voting record. Wisconsin law prohibits media outlets from publishing “a false representation pertaining to a candidate or referendum which is intended or tends to affect voting at an election.” " State Democratic Party Demands End to Anti-Kagen Ads in Fox Valley | Uppity Wisconsin
So WEAC, DNC and all the other special interest groups on behalf of Kagen against John Gard are all truthful and honest? Not! Somebody is running scared.
When you shine the light of truth on the left they are just like a bunch rats, they just go and hide!
We need to send Steve Kagen back to private practice.
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Scary
From my email box
"KENTUCKY GHOST STORY
This happened about a month ago just outside of Owensboro, Kentucky, a small town on the banks of the Ohio River, and while it sounds like an Alfred Hitchcock tale, it's indeed real.
An out-of-state traveler was walking along the side of the road hitchhiking on a dark night in the middle of a thunderstorm. Time passed slowly and no cars went by. It was raining so hard he could barley see his hand in front of his face.
Suddenly he saw a car approaching, moving slowly and appearing ghostlike in the rain. It slowly and silently crept toward him and stopped. Wanting a ride very badly, the guy jumped into the car and closed the door; only then did he realize that there was nobody behind the wheel, and no sound of the engine to be heard over the rain.
Again the car crept slowly forward the guy was terrified, too scared to think of jumping out and running. The guy saw that the car was approaching a sharp curve and, still too scared to jump out, he started to pray and beg for his life. He was certain the ghost car would go off the road and into the river, and he would surely drown! But just before the curve, a shadowy figure appeared at the driver's window and a hand reached in and turned the steering wheel, guiding the car safely around the bend. Then, just as silently, the hand disappeared through the window and the hitchhiker was alone again.
Paralyzed with fear, the guy watched the hand reappear every time they reached a curve. Finally the guy, frightened nearly to death, had all he could take and jumped out of the car and ran through the storm to the nearby town.
Wet and in shock, he went into a lighted tavern and with voice quavering, ordered two shots of whiskey, and then, shaken, he told everybody about his supernatural experience.
A silence came over those listening and everybody got goose bumps. They realized the guy was sober and was telling the truth. And the sounds of the storm continued outside.
About half an hour later, two guys walked into the bar and one says to the other, 'Look Billy Bob, there's that idiot that rode in our car while we was pushin' it in the rain.' "
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